I have just listened to a Podcast called Stereo Radiation which was pointed out to me by Alex Heule from Accio-Potter. He was upset that they had broadcast an episode criticising his Accio-Potter Wrock podcast purely because it had knocked them out of the Top Ten on Podcast Alley. So I listened to this jealous and quite frankly vicious rant to see what the fuss was about and now I’m really upset about it too.
I understand that not everyone ‘gets’ the Harry Potter books and the fandom that has grown up around it and that Wizard Rock is seen as a joke to those who haven’t bothered to actually explore the genre and although I personally feel that these people are missing out on something wonderful, they are fully entitled to their opinion. However, that said, to criticise so roundly the APW podcast and Wizard Rock in general, without any real knowledge of the subject, purely because you’re jealous that they are getting more votes on a Podcast voting site is pathetic in the extreme.
The SR podcast is nothing but a badly-informed, petty and spiteful dig at the Accio-Potter podcasters and Wizard Rockers alike and their ignorance is actually almost as annoying as their criticisms. Several times before getting to the segment about APW, they mentioned that this HP podcast had knocked them from the Top Ten - obviously this is the only motivation for their spite.
Funnily enough SR themselves aren’t too keen on criticism. At one point they said they were happy to receive comments about the show and that they’d make fun of how silly people are. They also said they were pretty charitable, unless you leave a nasty comment in which case you’ll get ignored. Oh, and if you want to leave a comment on their site, you have to register with them first and all comments are moderated – and guess what - no criticisms get through. I guess that you’d have to take this course when your podcast consists not, as they like to think, of witty banter, but a spewing of bile and jealousy.
First they began with a character assassination of the APW podcasters whilst playing snippets of the show, making puerile assumptions about them. I can only imagine that these assumptions are based on their own experience – certainly the way they described the podcasters made me imagine that they were actually talking about themselves. Not quite the gentle teasing that they mentioned earlier.
More rudeness against the APW crew ensues when the SR presenters point out what they consider to be the mispronunciation of the word ‘Accio.’ Luckily for us the presenters of this HP-hating podcast have the definitive answer. This is followed by a rant that HP podcasts get into the Top Ten because they merely mention HP and that they should produce one of their own – more proof, if it were needed, that jealousy is fueling this entire edition. And then they move onto criticising the Wrock itself.
Playing ‘Ice Cream Man’ by Harry and the Potters, they first of all picked up on the band name with the inference that it was lame. Then, completely showing their ignorance of the HP books they asked why they were singing about an ice cream man – hinting that it had nothing to do with wizards apart from the band name and the words Diagon Alley in the song. Further criticism was soon poured upon HatP, with speculation that they were actually a middle-aged rock band purely doing this to cash in and rip off the gullible HP fans.
In fact it was this criticism, which appeared several times throughout the podcast, which really infuriated me the most. As anyone, who has ever vaguely had anything to do with Wizard Rock knows, the whole thing is based on friendship and community and family and love. How many of the bands have given away their music rather than sold it? And how many of the bands give at least some the money they do make to charity and good causes? Has a genre ever produced so many charity albums? And to suggest that Wizard Rock bands are doing it only to cash in is to completely denigrate an entertaining and creative genre of music.
Finally, and the thing that really made my blood boil, was the comment that wizard rockers fall into either one of two camps – those that are cashing in and those that are, in the terms of the SR presenters ‘freaks.’ A huge criticism followed about people wasting time on writing songs about HP, along with surprise that anyone would be interested in hearing or buying the music. Interestingly, they also made it sound as if it was just a few bands, producing sub quality music – rather than the thousands of bands, in the main producing very good quality songs.
Of course the presenters admitted to knowing nothing about Wizard Rock and the blurb for this particular podcast describes the Wizard Rock genre as having a narrow focus and being bizarre. However, to use that as an excuse to denigrate people is not just lame, it’s downright nasty. One of the presenters said that he wouldn’t even know where to find ten wizard rock songs, let alone eighty four minutes worth (the running time of the episode of APW that they were discussing) – perhaps he should try checking out Google. A search for ‘Wizard Rock’ brings up almost 1.5 million results – so not that hard to find.
The main reason I’m so annoyed about this podcast is that these two presenters have been so incredibly mean to a bunch of people, that although I’ve never met in real life, I am proud to call friends and they have so rudely criticised the entire genre, without even bothering to investigate whether the music is any good. To call people who have the talent to write entertaining songs freaks is probably about as low as you can go in my opinion. I guess their bile must stem from the fact that they aren’t talented enough to write anything worth listening to and they are unable to keep their jealousy from spewing out.
For them, this jealousy has obviously turned into a vendetta as their new episode also contains a rant about Accio-Potter and Wizard Rock with yet more slandering of the AP podcaster. I know these stupid little podcasts think themselves subversive and entertaining, but really they are nothing more than spiteful. Perhaps they should consider about how pathetic they sound, before they start spouting off about other people’s podcasts.
I understand that not everyone ‘gets’ the Harry Potter books and the fandom that has grown up around it and that Wizard Rock is seen as a joke to those who haven’t bothered to actually explore the genre and although I personally feel that these people are missing out on something wonderful, they are fully entitled to their opinion. However, that said, to criticise so roundly the APW podcast and Wizard Rock in general, without any real knowledge of the subject, purely because you’re jealous that they are getting more votes on a Podcast voting site is pathetic in the extreme.
The SR podcast is nothing but a badly-informed, petty and spiteful dig at the Accio-Potter podcasters and Wizard Rockers alike and their ignorance is actually almost as annoying as their criticisms. Several times before getting to the segment about APW, they mentioned that this HP podcast had knocked them from the Top Ten - obviously this is the only motivation for their spite.
Funnily enough SR themselves aren’t too keen on criticism. At one point they said they were happy to receive comments about the show and that they’d make fun of how silly people are. They also said they were pretty charitable, unless you leave a nasty comment in which case you’ll get ignored. Oh, and if you want to leave a comment on their site, you have to register with them first and all comments are moderated – and guess what - no criticisms get through. I guess that you’d have to take this course when your podcast consists not, as they like to think, of witty banter, but a spewing of bile and jealousy.
First they began with a character assassination of the APW podcasters whilst playing snippets of the show, making puerile assumptions about them. I can only imagine that these assumptions are based on their own experience – certainly the way they described the podcasters made me imagine that they were actually talking about themselves. Not quite the gentle teasing that they mentioned earlier.
More rudeness against the APW crew ensues when the SR presenters point out what they consider to be the mispronunciation of the word ‘Accio.’ Luckily for us the presenters of this HP-hating podcast have the definitive answer. This is followed by a rant that HP podcasts get into the Top Ten because they merely mention HP and that they should produce one of their own – more proof, if it were needed, that jealousy is fueling this entire edition. And then they move onto criticising the Wrock itself.
Playing ‘Ice Cream Man’ by Harry and the Potters, they first of all picked up on the band name with the inference that it was lame. Then, completely showing their ignorance of the HP books they asked why they were singing about an ice cream man – hinting that it had nothing to do with wizards apart from the band name and the words Diagon Alley in the song. Further criticism was soon poured upon HatP, with speculation that they were actually a middle-aged rock band purely doing this to cash in and rip off the gullible HP fans.
In fact it was this criticism, which appeared several times throughout the podcast, which really infuriated me the most. As anyone, who has ever vaguely had anything to do with Wizard Rock knows, the whole thing is based on friendship and community and family and love. How many of the bands have given away their music rather than sold it? And how many of the bands give at least some the money they do make to charity and good causes? Has a genre ever produced so many charity albums? And to suggest that Wizard Rock bands are doing it only to cash in is to completely denigrate an entertaining and creative genre of music.
Finally, and the thing that really made my blood boil, was the comment that wizard rockers fall into either one of two camps – those that are cashing in and those that are, in the terms of the SR presenters ‘freaks.’ A huge criticism followed about people wasting time on writing songs about HP, along with surprise that anyone would be interested in hearing or buying the music. Interestingly, they also made it sound as if it was just a few bands, producing sub quality music – rather than the thousands of bands, in the main producing very good quality songs.
Of course the presenters admitted to knowing nothing about Wizard Rock and the blurb for this particular podcast describes the Wizard Rock genre as having a narrow focus and being bizarre. However, to use that as an excuse to denigrate people is not just lame, it’s downright nasty. One of the presenters said that he wouldn’t even know where to find ten wizard rock songs, let alone eighty four minutes worth (the running time of the episode of APW that they were discussing) – perhaps he should try checking out Google. A search for ‘Wizard Rock’ brings up almost 1.5 million results – so not that hard to find.
The main reason I’m so annoyed about this podcast is that these two presenters have been so incredibly mean to a bunch of people, that although I’ve never met in real life, I am proud to call friends and they have so rudely criticised the entire genre, without even bothering to investigate whether the music is any good. To call people who have the talent to write entertaining songs freaks is probably about as low as you can go in my opinion. I guess their bile must stem from the fact that they aren’t talented enough to write anything worth listening to and they are unable to keep their jealousy from spewing out.
For them, this jealousy has obviously turned into a vendetta as their new episode also contains a rant about Accio-Potter and Wizard Rock with yet more slandering of the AP podcaster. I know these stupid little podcasts think themselves subversive and entertaining, but really they are nothing more than spiteful. Perhaps they should consider about how pathetic they sound, before they start spouting off about other people’s podcasts.
Your main criticism of Stereo Radiation is that they don't "get it". They don't "get" the whole, what did you call it.. "wrock?" I suggest that perhaps you don't get them. Doing so would require a sense of humor, which is a difficult thing to grasp for middle aged women that still read children's books.
ReplyDeleteTHEY ARE JUST HAVING FUN GET THE FUCK OVER IT
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We at bigmouthspodcast agree with SR in saying, Wiz Rock is for Fags!
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ReplyDeleteI am known as The Emperorer on the SR forums.. On their forums I made a thread specifically inviting you and anyone else who doesn't like SR to vent their displeasure at the source.. Their forums are not moderated, and you have to sign up to prevent bots from spamming the forums (this is pretty much universal on every forum that exists on the web)
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..Speaking of censoring people who disagree with you, Mike Boudet's first comment on your post was deleted??
..And seriously, Wizard Rock gets 1.5 million hits because any page that happens to have 'rock' and 'wizard' on it show up .. 'wrock' gets 334,000.. which in the context of a google search is pitiful.. 'Stereo Radiation Podcast' gets almost twice as many hits as 'wrock'...
The Stereo Radiation guys have nothing personal against Wrock other than the fact that it is bizarre.. not bizarre in the sense of 'touching children' bizarre, but more in the sense of 'adult webkins fans' bizarre.. you took the podcast wayy out of context, when they talked about wrock they didn't sound like angry ranters, but like 2 chill guys sharing a good joke with the rest of the world..
..Seriously what does 'ice cream man' have to do with harry potter other than diagon alley?? I have read all 7 books (mostly in middle school, mind you), and I have no idea what anything in that song has to do with it..
If something cannot be made fun of, nothing can be made of it at all...
There are many other points you make that are too frivolous and ignorant for me to address at all..
However, I cordially invite you to respond to this and to relate any other grievance(s) on http://www.stereoradiation.com/forum
I'm a huge Wrock fan, and I agree with you that most people just don't get it, or they automatically think that it's sub-par/low quality music that isn't worth anyone's time.
ReplyDeleteThere's shitty music in main stream music too, so what's the difference.
Now I have no clue what's going on with that other podcast, so I won't even pretend to understand that whole debacle, but some of those comments they left you were just shitty! So Fuck em!
oh and by the way... 'Stereo Radiation Podcast' get twice as many hits because it has the words "stereo" and "podcast" in it, so he's a moron for even using that argument!
You're right about wrock being about Family and Community... there's some great people in the genre and do great things with the talents that have been given to them, plus J.K. Rowling gives her unwavering support for wrock, so ignore those other douchebags!
(I know that I might get flamed for this comment but I could care less)
-Beckie
PS: I'm 27 and don't give a shit if anyone thinks I'm a "fag" for liking wrock, like it's seriously gonna hurt my "freak" feelings?!? Well, thought I'd say my piece even if it is a little late...